1849 colt pocket cartridge conversion book

Ive included in the pictures a couple of observations from bruce mcdowells excellent book a study of colt conversions and other percussion revolvers. Rio the only conversions of the 1849 pocket as such were based on the thuer principle. Thuer conversion colt 1849 at james d julia forgotten weapons. A fun hobby grew into a fulltime business with over 46,000 square feet of warehouse space, annual catalog publication, and over 75,000 happy customers. A small number about 1500 of model 1851 navy revolvers was converted, using frontloaded, slightly. This is only the second thuer conversion ive owned in over 40 years of collecting and the only pocket model. As this was a front loading cartridge there was no need for an ejector. Colt, like all the other manufacturers in the us, was prevented from making cartridge revolvers by the rollin white patent, which finally expired in 1869. Rh0454 uberti 1849 pocket revolver dixie gun works. The cylinder has safety notches in between the bolt stops so five rounds can be loaded and the cylinder locked between two live cartridges. As the selfcontained metallic cartridge because popular, a niche industry developed in converting percussion. Bruce mcdowell who wrote the conversion book some y. Colt small frame conversion of pocket model 1849 cartridge revolver, 38 rimfire, no ejector, 3. Colt first called this revolver the ranger model, but the designation navy quickly took over after the civil war, revolvers using fixed metallic cartridges came into widespread use.

This howell conversion cylinder will allow you to convert your 1863 remington pietta pocket. Nomenclature, rammerless models, address variants, production figures, londonmade models, thuer and other metallic cartridge conversions. Original blue finish barrel and cylinder, brass frame and smooth walnut grips. Pretty close to the same frame size, but a two diameter cylinder and a step in the frame to allow that fatter cylinder front end to fit. Kirst konverter 45 colt for pietta 1858 remington with loading gate. The police and pocket navy revolvers, built on the pocket frame, were all. Unfollow 1849 pocket colt to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. The 1849 is the rarest of all the pocket model thuer conversions with fewer than 200 manufactured. The cartridge it fired became known as the 44 colt.

Bought an 1849 colt pocket, dual cavity bullet mold from tom last. Only an estimated 5,000 thuer conversions were executed by colt around 18691872. Only around 2000 of these were done at the factory. Colt pocket navy conversion revolver with a round 3 12 barrel. Colt later utilized these leftover parts to build a cartridge conversion. Black powder pistols with cartridge conversion cylinders october 20, 2015 is a 1849 31 caliber colt pocket pistol not legal in sass main matches read below before answering. These parts were already serial numbered in the 1849 s existing sequence. Colt richards conversion 1860 army forgotten weapons. Bruce mcdowell in his book, a study of colt conversions, on pages 340 and 341 pictures two examples of the rare 3. The smaller versions of colt s first revolvers are also called baby patersons by collectors and were produced first in. This left them limited to their percussion revolvers, the 1849, 1851, 1860, and 1862 models in particular. Colt 1849 pocket revolver cartridge conversion rare the history according to the blue book of gun values, this particular gun fits into the 300,000 serial number range, which makes it historically accurate to be a rare 3. This model is described as 5b2 on page 100 of flaydermans 9th edition.

For more information and to see quantity in stock, click the more info button. Successor to the 1848 baby dragoon, colt s 1849 pocket model was a smaller version of their 1851 navy, with about 340,000 produced between 1850 and 1873, more 49 pockets were manufactured than any other colt percussion firearm. Colt model 1849 pocket revolver percussion revolver. So, during the final years of the pocket navy production, cartridge conversions were already taking place, and into the 1880s. Contact us when considering buying or selling antique colts andor related materials. In 1860, after much experimentation aimed at reducing the size of the. Shumakers colt s variations of the old model pocket pistol 1848 to 1872 1957. Colt 1849 revolver 31 percussion rock island auction company. This model is actually made as a cartridge gun and was not made from a percussion. Western leather holsters old west leather, buckles, cowboy.

Just as silver spring steel allowed colt to adapt a. Revolvers made prior to 2002 may need to have the cylinder fitted by howell arms. Magazine man at arms septemberoctober 1999 colt 1849. No frame modification is needed, although minor fitting may be required due to gun manufacturer variations. Gun is in a oak box with cutouts and still has the key.

The cimarron 1849 colt revolvers 31caliber bore wont satisfy a power junkie, but it will do just about anything a 22 lr can with the added smoke and flame heightening respect with every shot. Armi san marcos colt 1860 cartridge conversion revolver duration. This is going to be more tenuous but i have time and. So they still carried the older 1849 serial numbers but the. Pictured in the book colt conversions by r bruce mcdowell pages 345346. Guns of fort fisher book photos of colt 1849 1860 in museum first edition 1973. There are only 4 known wells fargo revolvers with a 4 inch barrel. The only conversions of the 1849 pocket as such were based on the thuer principle. Feb 17, 2018 the colt model 1849 pocket revolver was colts answer when replacing their baby dragoon series of guns. Forgotten weapons thuer conversion colt 1849 revolver at james d julia. The conversion cylinder has a plate at the rear of the cylinder body that contains the firing pins. What is the value of colt 1849 pocket revolverlondon model. Bruce mcdowell has compiled the most comprehensive and complete book ever published on the subject of colt cartridge conversions.

The cylinder was cut down to remove the nipple area at the rear, and a new ratchet was formed. Had the right hammer assembly for my 1849 uberti pocket pistol and little fitting required for a perfect fit. Gun has mixed numbers and only some of the numbers are legible. Colt model 1862 police cartridge conversion revolver.

Once that is procured, ill buy the uberti 1849 pocket. The cylinder has been replaced with a wood block that. It took me 5 months to procure a squareback tg for my recreation of a colt 1851 second model based upon a pietta gun through taylors. In 1931, turner kirkland paid seventy five cents for a dug 1849 colt pocket pistol, which began a lifetime of buying and trading antique guns and parts. This 1849 colt pocket model revolver with all matching serial numbers is in exceptional condition, with loads of blue, case colors and perfect grips, and is housed in a. In this video we will take a look at the uberti 1849 pocket model.

Hopefully a fiveshot, but a sixshot will do as an early 1849 pocket model with a squareback tg. Colt 1849 pocket revolver c12724 guns international. One of the first of these conversions was designed by f. Colt offered it as a conversion on the 1849 pocket, 1851 and 1861 navy, 1860 army by far the most common version, pocket pistol of navy caliber. Colt guns colt conversions page 1 collectors firearms.

Hl1102 colt 1849 and 62 pocket holster for 5 to 5 12 barrel. Colt 1849 pocket revolver converted to single shot. A successor to the baby dragoon, the 1849 pocket is essentially a small version of the 1851 navy. And, as far as i can find, there is only one other video on. Help needed from colt percussion experts pocket 1849 i am not much of a blackpowder man, but have always wanted a nice old colt percussion to shoot occasionally. This is an armi san marco replica of a colt 1848 pocket model, known as the baby dragoon. Vivid case colors with about 80%, some silver on straps with inscription n. Help needed from colt percussion experts pocket 1849. Unusual cartridge conversion of a colt 1849 pocket revolver. This volume is the bible for the colt pocket model revolver of 1849. Civilian pocket revolvers, such as the wells fargo or 1849 pocket, were.

Baby dragoon cartridge conversion tinker talks guns. Colt revolvers conversion 18671878 for sale guns international. These cartridges were loaded from the front of the cylinder and pressfit. Fitted just this afternoon with a kirst gated conversion in. Dixie gun works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique. Finish was excellent looking case hardening that matched the frame perfectly. The model 1849 pocket revolvers are the rarest of all colt thuer conversion revolvers. A study of colt conversions and other percussion revolvers book free. But the pocket navy revolver was produced with the stage coach holdup scene, as on the late 1848 baby dragoon or the 1849 pocket models.

Colt 1849 pocket revolver c15753 colt 1849 pocket revolver. This gun is an 1862 manufactured piece in very good working order with a good bore for its age. Uberti 1849 pocket with conversion cylinder video sass. Hey, all, i recently acquired both a uberti 1849 pocket model and a conversion cylinder. This revolver has the extremely rare 4 inch octagon barrel with no provisions for a loading lever and has a small round trigger guard. Additional fancier buckles, conchos, and leather tooling available for additional price. This revolver has the distinctive thuer conversion features which include. Dec 18, 20 shooting and showing the navy colt richards mason cartridge conversion, as well as giving an overview of the cartridge conversion revolvers of the 1860s and 1870s. Colt model 1862 police cartridge conversion revolver c15799. Since it was offered both on new built revolvers and as an alteration of customers personal revolvers, no hard numbers on the total thuer population.

We offer conversion cylinders for revolvers such as the 1847 walker, 1848 dragoon, 1849 pocket, 1851 navy, 1861 navy, 1858 remington. This antique revolver was colts first true cartridge pistol manufactured as such. Colt guns colt 1849 pocket page 1 collectors firearms. Hl1103 colt 1849 and 62 pocket holster w6 to 6 12 barrel. Im seriously thinking about making a cartridge conversion out of a uberti 49 pocket model, but there is an issue most people dont take into consideration. Details about my uberti 1849 pocket model with cartridge conversion cylinder allowing 5 shots of. These were phenomenally popular guns, but quickly becoming obsolete in the face of. Black powder pistols with cartridge conversion cylinders. More colt 49s were made between 1848 and 1873 and more rare variations of it exist than any other colt revolver. Thuer conversion colt 1849 at james d julia forgotten. Feb 12, 2014 i have a colt 1849 pocket model pistol, 5 shot.

Manufactured in 1850, this first year production model 1849 revolver is in the correct 15,000 serial number block for the wells fargo model 1849 revolvers. Original colt pocket navy if this is your first visit. This particular thuer conversion is on an 1849 colt pocket revolver. Howell old west conversions conversion cylinder 31 cal. All firearms in this sale are being handled and transferred in accordance with all applicable new york state and federal regulations. Shop antique colt firearms with nationally recognized professionals to include appraisal, authentication and consignment services on antique colt firearms, powder flasks, bullet molds, cases, cartridges, wrenches, etc. Here is a rare factory engraved, 5 12 inch, colt 1862 police.

Cased london 1849 colt pocket, pistols historical and. Uberti 1849 pocket revolver parts taylors firearms. The conversion cylinder for the 1849 colt pocket revolver is no longer available in. The first metallic cartridge revolver made by colt was the thuerconversion model revolver, a design that would not require a cylinder with cylindrical chambers so as not to infringe on the rollin white patent.

Kirst cartridge konverter 1851, 1849 colt vtigunparts. This gun has an original cartridge conversion barrel that has been sleeved to. This is a richards conversion based on the 1860 army colt. Alexander thuer and marketed by the colt company itself. Nevertheless, i think it is a beautiful version of what colt could have produced. Thuers model conversions were done on the following model guns manufactured by colt. Metal has a mostly gray patina, but remains really sharp. The thuer conversions were the first colt metallic cartridge revolvers and are thus very desirable, and very few of these model 1849 pocket. Thuer conversion colt 1849 at james d julia as the selfcontained metallic cartridge because popular, a niche industry developed in converting percussion revolvers to use the new cartridges. Kirst konverter for pietta 18511861 with loading gate 38 long colt. This includes conversions of most of the colt percussion revolvers. Jan 20, 2018 details about my uberti 1849 pocket model with cartridge conversion cylinder allowing 5 shots of.